Re: MORE: Web Info Architecture; VISIO-the joke

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Posted by richard
1999-08-26 13:15:56

Thanks, Michael… a few q’s:
(1) >Inspiration lacks both the referential power (cloning, etc):

Cloning and hoisting and other such features have been referenced in various messages and threads here. I never had the opportunity to learn all of thes efeatures in MORE. I have been working in environments for the past 8 years where you jump in, use the tool your group is using, and start producing. I have not had the luxury to study instructions or ref guides—meaning, already working 10 hr days just to get job done, so add’l time to invest in learning the in’s and out’s was pushing it.

If the follwing request has not yet been responded to in some way, would anyone here be willing to take a stab at defining the top 10 “must-have” and “nice-having” features of MORE, with brief sentence description of what the feature is (like cloning), and when it’s useful to use it.

And likewise, that kind of feature summary for Inspiration?

(2) TOPDOWN vs. ALL CLEAR vs. INSPIRATION vs. MORE
Michael mentions TopDown as cross-platform. Erik Neu also mentioned All Clear. Of these two apps mentioned, anyone recommending them for developing web architecture? From the decription Micheal writes about TopDown, it sounds like it can generate outline version after-the-fact of creation—vs—what I need is a tool that lets me work through the information design issues in text/outline form first, periodically toggling to flowchart mode to see a graphical respresentation. (Again, my lambasting of Visio is that it’s an after-the-fact pretty-document maker (and I don’t even consider it pretty). The mental exercise of organizing information in the right clusters, quick brainstorming, nesting, collapsing and expanding information-groups is what I need for site architecture development—- with a flowchart being a form of presentation output and info refinement, as opposed to the modality of creation of the initial organziation scheme.

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