MORE 3.1 + OS 8.6
Posted by t.paul
on 8/26/1999
t.paul
8/26/1999 9:17 am
I have read a number of times that people run MORE 3.1 with OS 8.6 without any problems. I do have a - well, rather small - problem of cosmetic nature: In MORE, I don't get the drop-down menues with the OS-8-typical grey background color. Instead, they are just plain white as known from pre-7.5-systems.
While this doesn't have any effect on MORE's superb functionality (Thanks, Dave! Thanks, Symantec!), it still bothers me... Does anyone have a clue?
For what it's worth: I have noticed this behavior in some other applications as well.
Thanks for any input and greetings from Germany,
Tom
While this doesn't have any effect on MORE's superb functionality (Thanks, Dave! Thanks, Symantec!), it still bothers me... Does anyone have a clue?
For what it's worth: I have noticed this behavior in some other applications as well.
Thanks for any input and greetings from Germany,
Tom
brad
8/26/1999 10:53 am
>Does anyone have a clue?
Yes, we did our own menu code in order to support dynamically changing items when you press modifier keys, walk-down menus (Cmd-Spacebar), graphics in menus, etc. This was at a time when there was only one Macintosh appearance, so there was no other "Mac" way to do it.
Much has changed since 1991 (although More hasn't ;-) ).
--Brad
mpt26
8/31/1999 8:08 am
Here's some other minor OS-related (I think) problems I've found with More 3.1 and MacOS 8.6.
(1) In 8.6's Page Setup, the More-specific options are oddly positioned in the dialog box -- I'm guessing this is a side-effect of the controls' original placement in the 7.x-style Page Setup dialog.
(2) The `Resume MORE' file remembers More's previous session, opening all outlines that were open last time More was quit. This would be great, except that More opens the outlines *read-only*, making the function useless because you have to close and re-open the outlines before you can get any work done.
(3) More doesn't use the system alert sound (Quack, Sosumi, or whatever); it makes that quaint squeaking noise instead.
(4) More doesn't quit when the Finder asks it to -- you need to quit More manually before shutting down/restarting.
But hey, I'm not complaining -- I'm in outliner heaven. My first experience with outliners was with a demo of an Amiga program called Flow (circa 1991). I thought it was quite cool, but didn't realize that more powerful stuff like More existed. I write all my lecture notes out as approximate outlines during lectures anyway, so More is great for rewriting them into a more logical order later.
-- mpt
PS: Netscape Communicator (4.5, anyway) also has the 7.x-style menus which Thomas Paul was quibbling about -- as does Aldus Freehand 4.0, and BBEdit Lite 4.1, and probably any other older program which tries to do fancy stuff with its menus.
(1) In 8.6's Page Setup, the More-specific options are oddly positioned in the dialog box -- I'm guessing this is a side-effect of the controls' original placement in the 7.x-style Page Setup dialog.
(2) The `Resume MORE' file remembers More's previous session, opening all outlines that were open last time More was quit. This would be great, except that More opens the outlines *read-only*, making the function useless because you have to close and re-open the outlines before you can get any work done.
(3) More doesn't use the system alert sound (Quack, Sosumi, or whatever); it makes that quaint squeaking noise instead.
(4) More doesn't quit when the Finder asks it to -- you need to quit More manually before shutting down/restarting.
But hey, I'm not complaining -- I'm in outliner heaven. My first experience with outliners was with a demo of an Amiga program called Flow (circa 1991). I thought it was quite cool, but didn't realize that more powerful stuff like More existed. I write all my lecture notes out as approximate outlines during lectures anyway, so More is great for rewriting them into a more logical order later.
-- mpt
PS: Netscape Communicator (4.5, anyway) also has the 7.x-style menus which Thomas Paul was quibbling about -- as does Aldus Freehand 4.0, and BBEdit Lite 4.1, and probably any other older program which tries to do fancy stuff with its menus.