GrandView forever!
Posted by macmark
on 5/14/2004
macmark
5/14/2004 12:37 pm
Hi!
I just found this forum after a Google search for Outliners. I was hoping to find out if by any chance Symantec had decided to bring out a Windows Version of GrandView. In all the years that I have had computers there has never been such an amazing program. The problem seemed to be that EVERYBODY who used it loved it BUT hardly anybody knew about it. This seems to me to be a MARKETING PROBLEM rather than a software problem. If Symantec supports this site as I seem to have read somewhere, then I think that some enterprising executive there could make a great career move by championing a rewrite of GrandView for Windows. Wishful thinking I guess? Anyway, I am still using GrandView as my single MAIN program even under Windows XP Home. It gets harder and harder but I am still hanging in. I solved the problem raised in earlier posts by getting my wife to sit beside me while I use GrandView.
Cheers,
Mark
I just found this forum after a Google search for Outliners. I was hoping to find out if by any chance Symantec had decided to bring out a Windows Version of GrandView. In all the years that I have had computers there has never been such an amazing program. The problem seemed to be that EVERYBODY who used it loved it BUT hardly anybody knew about it. This seems to me to be a MARKETING PROBLEM rather than a software problem. If Symantec supports this site as I seem to have read somewhere, then I think that some enterprising executive there could make a great career move by championing a rewrite of GrandView for Windows. Wishful thinking I guess? Anyway, I am still using GrandView as my single MAIN program even under Windows XP Home. It gets harder and harder but I am still hanging in. I solved the problem raised in earlier posts by getting my wife to sit beside me while I use GrandView.
Cheers,
Mark
ureadit
5/14/2004 6:54 pm
RE: GV
1. Several years ago, I prevailed upon the author of Jot+ to see if he could get Symantec to provide the file format of GV so that a conversion program could be used. Jot's author is American, but now lives in England, and he said the laws there were much tougher on a company keeping secret something it had no intention of using. Still he had no luck. Of course the rights to the file format may belong to its author, John Friend. If anyone knows how to contact him, he might be willing to let others use it.
The developer who tried bringing out a PC Outline for Windows, had to use a different file format, which seemed ok for small files, but not for larger ones. (PC Outline was the predecessor of GV.)
2. On my laptop, I keep Win 98SE just to make GV easier to use. My desktop at work has Win 2000, and GV is kind of flaky on it, DEPENDING on how I open it. So, here's some ideas that may help.
a. Open GV using a batch file with appropriate switches, and play around with some of the settings in the pif/shortcut/properties or whatever your version calls the file. I have found in Win2000 that if I open GV by double-clicking on a GV file or by clicking the mouse pointer over the GV shortcut icon, GV opens up with weird symbols in the frame lines. However, if I assign a shortcut key combination to the batch file in its "properties," GV opens up normally using the key combination.
3. Inspiration does a pretty good job of converting GV files. See my message #1629.
-sc
1. Several years ago, I prevailed upon the author of Jot+ to see if he could get Symantec to provide the file format of GV so that a conversion program could be used. Jot's author is American, but now lives in England, and he said the laws there were much tougher on a company keeping secret something it had no intention of using. Still he had no luck. Of course the rights to the file format may belong to its author, John Friend. If anyone knows how to contact him, he might be willing to let others use it.
The developer who tried bringing out a PC Outline for Windows, had to use a different file format, which seemed ok for small files, but not for larger ones. (PC Outline was the predecessor of GV.)
2. On my laptop, I keep Win 98SE just to make GV easier to use. My desktop at work has Win 2000, and GV is kind of flaky on it, DEPENDING on how I open it. So, here's some ideas that may help.
a. Open GV using a batch file with appropriate switches, and play around with some of the settings in the pif/shortcut/properties or whatever your version calls the file. I have found in Win2000 that if I open GV by double-clicking on a GV file or by clicking the mouse pointer over the GV shortcut icon, GV opens up with weird symbols in the frame lines. However, if I assign a shortcut key combination to the batch file in its "properties," GV opens up normally using the key combination.
3. Inspiration does a pretty good job of converting GV files. See my message #1629.
-sc