Cloning (not sheep) and other features...

Posted by brad on 8/18/1999
brad 8/18/1999 8:16 pm
What features did you like in MORE?
Did you use the Clone feature? How?
Hoisted anything good lately?
How about MORE's "comment" (aka document) windows?

Personally, I would have liked the ability to add multiple comments to individual headlines.
I also would have liked multiple rule sets: one for printing, and another for structural changes and basic text editing.

What was on your wish list?

--Brad
brent 8/18/1999 8:40 pm
What features did you like in MORE?

For me, a new MORE user, the question is: what features do I like in MORE?

I like cloning. I have a to-do list that has a priorities headline, under which I put the most important items. This priorities headline contains clones only.

Hoisting is cool too. I have a log with a headline for each day. I like to hoist the current day, so I see only the current day.

I didn't expect to use Rules much, but I do. Usually in very simple ways. For instance, when I paste an email into an outline I like to color-code it, so later I can see immediately it's a pasted email.

I like that I can get a line break in a headline via option-return.

I like that there's no difference between edit mode and selection mode and that cursor keys are flat. (I set my copies of Frontier to use flat cursor keys now too.) Outline navigation is pretty easy via keyboard.

There are some things I don't like: command-. and command-, to expand and collapse. I wish the numeric keypad + and - worked. Also: I haven't figured out how to select multiple headlines and move them at the same time.

Comments I don't care about at all. At least so far -- that may change.
leehinde 8/18/1999 9:46 pm
I use Hoist daily. Calendar is quick and easy and a weekly feature. I "gather" occaisionally as well.

Today I wished I could do tables, like InControl.
pb2 8/19/1999 1:20 am
On top of my wish list is a VERY small and simple request; to drag a headline to a collapsed headline with option should only put the subhead last IF shift also was down otherwise it should go FIRST. (Long ago (3.0) I talked to Symantec about this but then the software where abandoned)

This has always annoyed me as I now has to expand the headline to get the subhead sorted first.

If you mark a text bold you get this annoying little marker for a ruler, to get text bold without this you have to split the process in that you first set the left part of a headline to bold and then the rigth. It should be a better way.

A possibility to change every keyboard shortcut (using the shortcuts with a non US keyboard is a nightmare) NowMenus does not understand MORE though QuicKeys does but it slower to configure.

I think you should be able to exclude all comments from a search.

I love the gather command but would like to have an alternative way to highlight text that was NOT gathered.

I also would have liked multiple rule sets: one for printing, and another for structural changes and basic text editing.

I solved this by having different rule sets in a library, one for writing the report and one for printing (with TOC) (if of any interest I can share this rather complicated setup)

Last a useful tip; It is important to use Save as from now and then as your files grows. It does efficiently compact them but also check them from hidden structural faults (a headline suddenly refuses to expand).
nubuckaroo 8/20/1999 7:07 pm
Would this be cool? Use Publish and Subscribe - create separate outlines for individual departments/personnel - have a publisher set up for each of the corresponding departments in a master outline. The individual outlines would have a topic which subscribes to their topic(s) in the master. I think Acta supports Publish and Subscribe, but it doesn't support cloning, so it's a bit limited, but you could have a common topic in the master outline which each of the subordinate outlines subscribes to, in addition to their particular topic, that would go some way toward replicating some of the functionality of cloning for this purpose.

So you might have something like this: (ARGH it's tough to format text in this!)

Big Organization Inc. Master Plan

+ Common Data (published to Common Data topic in all)

>+ Calendar

>+ Resource availability (meeting rooms, etc)

>+ General Information (strategic plan, mission, vision, etc)

+ Departmental Data

>+ Accounting

>>>+ Action items (published to Accounting's outline)

>>>+ Reports (subscribed from Accouting's outline)

>+ Personnel

>>>+ Action Items (same as above)

>>>- Reports (you get the idea)


Now, for common data, you could argue that one could use a single outline and let everyone have access to it over the network. Maybe that's a better way. I'm just thinking out loud here. I know I'm not happy with Outlook's use of calendars as resource schedulers.

You might be able to replicate and improve upon some of the Outlook Today functionality by having a script create a document (any document that supports P&S) which subscribes to particular topics for a given day or priority. I'm suggesting you could format the data for viewing in a manner different than the outliner offers, but maintain the integrity of the outline's structure.

Again, I'm just thinking out loud. Time to go and play.

Would like to see drag and drop editing supported in comment (document) windows. Cut/Copy/Paste works, but drag and drop is too convenient and I miss it when I can't use it.