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Posted by babbie on 5/23/2002
babbie 5/23/2002 11:14 am
I began outlining with ThinkTank and worked my way up to MORE 3.1, the greatest outliner to date. I have written whole books in MORE, exporting to MSW at the last minute for my publishers. In a moment of intellectual weakness a couple of years ago, however, I decided I needed to work cross-platform and eventually switched to Inspiration, which is not a bad outliner and works on Windows as well as on real computers, though it falls short of MORE 3.1, despite 19 or so years to improve on it.

Now I am facing a crisis, since Inspiration still hasn't brought out a native OSX version, though promising to do so each time I ask.

I like the looks of OmniOutliner and appreciate their homage to MORE, but it can't handle photos and other graphics the way MORE 3.1 and Inspiration can. PocketNotes has some nice features and holds photos, but it's clumsy as an outliner. I've tried everything on the Apple OSX website but nothing compares to MORE.

Does anyone know of an OSX outliner that can handle graphics?

Thanks,

Earl
max30 5/23/2002 2:17 pm
I can't answer your last question, but I'll add that many people find More 3.1 stable enough to use in OSXs classic mode--so long as they change the memory setting for More to 4500 k. Other people, me included, cross platforms by running More 3.1 from within Basilisk, the free emulation program. This works well, but it is not quite as easy to set up.

I have a registered copy of OmniOutliner, but I'm more and more resigned to the fact that there just might not be another More in the making.

Finally, I'm curious about the book you wrote in More. What did you do for footnotes, and did you write the body of the book in the comments windows or in the headlines themselves?
nubuckaroo 6/4/2002 11:59 am
The integrated outliner in AppleWorks 6 (and previous, going back to at least 4 or 3, maybe even 2) can handle graphics. It can also handle hyperlinks within the document, to other documents and to web pages. You can also embed spreadsheet frames and tables. You can also have multiple views of the same document open at one time.

It's not More, but it's pretty spiffy and it's mostly ignored.

Back when Publish and Subscribe was a supported technology in AppleWorks, you could even clone topics, and subscribe to other documents in topics.

With AppleScript, I think some of the functionality of Hoist could be replicated; something I should probably try to do one day. I'm not sure what the best way to do it would be. Cut the text of the topic to a new document and then copy and paste the changes back to the original or something else (Move the topic to the top of the document, and then select all the remaining text and change the color of the text to white to make it disappear, or maybe just gray to make it appear to fade into the background. I'm not even certain you could do that in AppleScript in AW 6, but I think you can.)

I don't know. It has potential.